Don't Bring the Fight Home
A run-in during the day, retold at home that night. The Chafetz Chaim rules on the retelling.
2 minute readYou had a run-in with someone today. At home, the person closest to you asks how your day was. Is telling them different from telling anyone else?
There is no difference in the prohibition of telling lashon hara (negative talk about someone), the Chafetz Chaim rules, whether a person tells other people, relatives or not, or his wife. The exception is something she needs to know for a benefit in the future. His example: she sells on credit to people it will be hard to collect from, so he tells her of their bad character and warns her not to sell to them on credit. Then, in parentheses: many go wrong here, and tell their wives everything that happened to them with this person and that one, in the beit midrash (study hall) or in the market. Besides the lashon hara, he writes, this multiplies quarrel.
Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
Telling the person closest to you is still telling
By nine you have told the story of the 4:40 meeting three times. Once in your head, in the elevator. Once on the phone, walking from the train. Once in full, across the kitchen counter, with voices. The third telling is the best one. In it, Gil from Finance says "per my last email" out loud, which he has never done.
The Chafetz Chaim has this kind of evening in parentheses. Many go wrong, he writes, and tell their wives everything that happened to them with So-and-so in the beit midrash (study hall) or in the market. It is no different, he rules, from telling anyone else. And he says what follows. She will hold on to the hatred. She will quarrel over it with that person, or with his household. She will press her husband to go back and quarrel some more. And in the end, he writes, she herself will scorn him for it (8:10).
In our words: his study hall and market are your office, and his wife is whoever you come home to. That widening is ours. So is this: you will forget Gil in a few days. The person at the counter has only your version, and no reason to forget. The line Gil never said is a second problem, and a worse one. The same paragraph has a permission: something she needs to know for a benefit in the future. Whether your evening is that case is a question for a rav (rabbi). Gil will hold the elevator for you tomorrow. He does that.
Tonight, when someone asks how your day was, leave out the run-in. See what is left to tell.
Ask yourself, or your study partnerWho hears my version of everyone I work with?
Go deeperMore of his words, and every source
What he says it sets off
In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) he says that this very thing is in Avot de-Rabbi Natan, an early companion to Pirkei Avot (the Mishnah's Ethics of the Fathers), at the end of chapter 7. As he quotes it, the passage explains the Mishnah's words about a husband's talk with his wife (Avot 1:5). How so? When a person comes to the study hall and is not treated with honor, or has a dispute with his fellow, he should not go and say to his wife, "This is how I argued with my fellow." He disgraces himself and disgraces his fellow, and his wife, who used to honor him, stands and laughs at him.
He adds that someone who tells such a story tells it so that it sounds right, and so that the wrong is on the other side. He says this to explain why it does not help that the thing happened in front of others. In our scene the teller also adds a line that was never said. Where something false is mixed into the telling, and the person is shamed the more for it, he rules that it is motzi shem ra, giving a person a bad name, and the sin is far greater (Lashon Hara 1:1).
When she needs to know
He gives the same rule for a business partner who tells his partner that certain people are, in his opinion, not to be trusted. He points to the Gemara (the Talmud, Kiddushin 52b), where Rabbi Yehuda tells his students not to let the students of Rabbi Meir in, because they are quarrelsome. Even something he has only heard he may pass on as a warning for the future, although he may not believe it as settled fact. Then he must choose his words:
"But otherwise," he writes, "there is no difference at all." In a note elsewhere (Lashon Hara 10:14), on a person who tells others of a wrong done to him, he suggests that telling it in order to ease the worry in his heart may perhaps also count as a purpose for the future, as long as the other conditions listed there are kept. That note came up in week 2. How it meets this paragraph is a question for a rav (rabbi).
Quarrel brings the rest
This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, at the start of his chapters on machloket, quarrel. The pairing of this passage with today's law is ours.
Sources
- Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 8:10: telling one's wife, and when she needs to know.
- Avot de-Rabbi Natan 7:3: the dispute in the study hall, retold at home.
- Pirkei Avot 1:5: the Mishnah that passage explains.
- Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 1:1: when something false is mixed in.
- Kiddushin 52b: Rabbi Yehuda and the students of Rabbi Meir.
- Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 10:14: the note on easing one's worry.
- Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 15:2: what quarrel leads to.