More Listeners, More Sin
You said it once, to the whole group. The Chafetz Chaim counts the people in the group.
2 minute readYou say something true and unflattering about a coworker. Does it matter whether it is to one person or a group?
It is forbidden to tell lashon hara (negative talk about someone) about your fellow, the Chafetz Chaim rules, even if it is true, even in front of one person, and all the more in front of many. The more listeners there are, the greater the teller's sin. His fellow is disgraced more, because his disgrace has been made known in front of a number of people. And the teller makes a number of people stumble in the prohibition of hearing lashon hara. In his notes he adds that a number of people err here, and lean on a line in the Gemara (the Talmud) about things said in front of three people.
Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
Saying it to a group is worse than saying it to one person
The team chat has fourteen people in it. Dana is not one of them, which is how the chat came to be discussing her out-of-office reply, the third this month. You typed one line: "Dana's auto-reply has better attendance than Dana." It got six laughing faces and a tumbleweed, and for about forty seconds you were the funniest person on the fourth floor.
The Chafetz Chaim counts differently. Lashon hara is forbidden in front of one person, he rules, and all the more in front of many: the more listeners, the greater the teller's sin. The person is disgraced more, in front of more people. And each of those people has been made to stumble in the prohibition of hearing it (2:1).
In our words: you would have said you told it once. Count it his way and there are thirteen listeners, each one a little more of her disgrace, and each one handed something he is forbidden to hear. Some feel a crowd makes it better: it is hardly behind her back when that many people saw it. His notes say that a number of people err in this law. You thought the line was harmless when you typed it. Dana is back next week. She will bring the cookies her mother sends, and leave the box by your desk, because you once said you liked them.
Today, before you say or post anything about a person to a group, count the people in it. If it is unflattering, leave it unsent.
Ask yourself, or your study partnerWhere is my biggest audience, and what do I say there about people who are not in it?
Go deeperMore of his words, and every source
In front of one, and all the more in front of many
In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) he writes that this is plain by reason, and that it is stated outright in the Sifrei, an early midrash (the Sages' reading of the verses). He quotes the Sifrei on the opening of Devarim (Deuteronomy; Sifrei Devarim 1): when Miriam spoke about her brother Moshe (Moses), no one heard her but the Holy One alone, and she was punished as she was; one who speaks of his fellow's disgrace in public, how much more. He points to two more places in the Sifrei that say the like. One of them (Sifrei Devarim 275) says: Miriam spoke only when Moshe was not present, and for his benefit, for the praise of God and the building of the world, and she was punished as she was; one who speaks of his fellow's disgrace in public, how much more will he be punished.
He brings a second proof from the Gemara (the Talmud, Arachin 16a-16b). It speaks of two things in the Temple that atoned for lashon hara: the incense for what was said in private, and the High Priest's robe, with its bells, for what was said in public. So what is said in public, he reasons, needs atonement too.
Why does he explain at length something so plain? Because, he writes, a number of people err in this and lean on the words of the sage Rabbah bar Rav Huna in the Gemara (Bava Batra 39a): anything said in front of three people has no lashon hara in it. So he found himself obliged to explain the matter in all its details. He goes through how the early commentators read that line, and says that what he wrote in the main text is not one lone opinion: all the early authorities agree with it.
He sins, and makes others sin
This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, in a chapter whose heading says that in this sin a person sins and makes his fellow sin. "Accepting" lashon hara means believing it. Further on in the chapter he passes on a piece of advice he heard. A wise man told his friend never to stand near the synagogue or the study hall after the third Shabbat meal, in summer, to tell someone something:
The pairing of this chapter with today's law is ours.
Sources
- Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:1: in front of one, and in front of many.
- Sifrei Devarim 1: the passage he quotes: no one heard her but the Holy One.
- Sifrei Devarim 275: a parallel he points to.
- Arachin 16a-16b: lashon hara in private and in public.
- Bava Batra 39a-39b: the line about things said in front of three.
- Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 13:2: he sins and makes his fellow sin.
- Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 13:6: from two they become three.