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Shmirat HaLashon · Week 6: What Everyone Already Knows
שְׁמִירַת הַלָּשׁוֹן

Seven days of speech about what everyone already knows

One teaching a day from the Chafetz Chaim on guarding your speech: the law from his book Chafetz Chaim, the why from Shmirat HaLashon, and how to take it to work. About two minutes. Want more? Every day has a "Go deeper" section with more of his words and every source.

His words are in the dark boxes. Take it to work is our application of his teaching.

Sunday, December 6 · Day 1 of 7

More Listeners, More Sin

You said it once, to the whole group. The Chafetz Chaim counts the people in the group.

2 minute read
Think first

You say something true and unflattering about a coworker. Does it matter whether it is to one person or a group?

Today's teaching

It is forbidden to tell lashon hara (negative talk about someone) about your fellow, the Chafetz Chaim rules, even if it is true, even in front of one person, and all the more in front of many. The more listeners there are, the greater the teller's sin. His fellow is disgraced more, because his disgrace has been made known in front of a number of people. And the teller makes a number of people stumble in the prohibition of hearing lashon hara. In his notes he adds that a number of people err here, and lean on a line in the Gemara (the Talmud) about things said in front of three people.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
וְכָל שֶׁיִּתְרַבּוּ הַשּׁוֹמְעִים, יִתְרַבֶּה עֲוֹן הַמְסַפֵּר, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁחֲבֵרוֹ מִתְגַּנֶּה יוֹתֵר עַל יְדֵי זֶה, שֶׁנִּתְפַּרְסֵם גְּנוּתוֹ בִּפְנֵי כַּמָּה אֲנָשִׁים, גַּם שֶׁעַל יְדֵי זֶה מַכְשִׁיל כַּמָּה אֲנָשִׁים בְּאִסוּר שְׁמִיעַת לָשׁוֹן הָרָע
"…And the more the listeners, the greater the teller's sin, because his fellow is disgraced more by this, since his disgrace has been made known in front of a number of people; and also because by this he makes a number of people stumble in the prohibition of hearing lashon hara."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:1Open the source
Take it to work

Saying it to a group is worse than saying it to one person

The team chat has fourteen people in it. Dana is not one of them, which is how the chat came to be discussing her out-of-office reply, the third this month. You typed one line: "Dana's auto-reply has better attendance than Dana." It got six laughing faces and a tumbleweed, and for about forty seconds you were the funniest person on the fourth floor.

The Chafetz Chaim counts differently. Lashon hara is forbidden in front of one person, he rules, and all the more in front of many: the more listeners, the greater the teller's sin. The person is disgraced more, in front of more people. And each of those people has been made to stumble in the prohibition of hearing it (2:1).

In our words: you would have said you told it once. Count it his way and there are thirteen listeners, each one a little more of her disgrace, and each one handed something he is forbidden to hear. Some feel a crowd makes it better: it is hardly behind her back when that many people saw it. His notes say that a number of people err in this law. You thought the line was harmless when you typed it. Dana is back next week. She will bring the cookies her mother sends, and leave the box by your desk, because you once said you liked them.

Today's move

Today, before you say or post anything about a person to a group, count the people in it. If it is unflattering, leave it unsent.

Send to a friend

Ask yourself, or your study partnerWhere is my biggest audience, and what do I say there about people who are not in it?

Go deeperMore of his words, and every source

In front of one, and all the more in front of many

אָסוּר לְסַפֵּר לָשׁוֹן הָרָע עַל חֲבֵרוֹ, אַף שֶׁהוּא אֱמֶת, אֲפִלּוּ בִּפְנֵי יָחִיד. וְכָל שֶׁכֵּן בִּפְנֵי רַבִּים
"It is forbidden to tell lashon hara about one's fellow, even though it is true, even in front of one person. And all the more in front of many."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:1Open the source

In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) he writes that this is plain by reason, and that it is stated outright in the Sifrei, an early midrash (the Sages' reading of the verses). He quotes the Sifrei on the opening of Devarim (Deuteronomy; Sifrei Devarim 1): when Miriam spoke about her brother Moshe (Moses), no one heard her but the Holy One alone, and she was punished as she was; one who speaks of his fellow's disgrace in public, how much more. He points to two more places in the Sifrei that say the like. One of them (Sifrei Devarim 275) says: Miriam spoke only when Moshe was not present, and for his benefit, for the praise of God and the building of the world, and she was punished as she was; one who speaks of his fellow's disgrace in public, how much more will he be punished.

He brings a second proof from the Gemara (the Talmud, Arachin 16a-16b). It speaks of two things in the Temple that atoned for lashon hara: the incense for what was said in private, and the High Priest's robe, with its bells, for what was said in public. So what is said in public, he reasons, needs atonement too.

Why does he explain at length something so plain? Because, he writes, a number of people err in this and lean on the words of the sage Rabbah bar Rav Huna in the Gemara (Bava Batra 39a): anything said in front of three people has no lashon hara in it. So he found himself obliged to explain the matter in all its details. He goes through how the early commentators read that line, and says that what he wrote in the main text is not one lone opinion: all the early authorities agree with it.

He sins, and makes others sin

כִּי יָדוּעַ הוּא שֶׁעָוֹן זֶה נַעֲשֶׂה עַל כָּל פָּנִים בִּשְׁנַיִם, וְאִם כֵּן הוּא חוֹטֵא וּמַחֲטִיא בָּזֶה אֶת חֲבֵרוֹ, שֶׁעַל יָדוֹ בָּא חֲבֵרוֹ גַּם כֵּן לְאִסּוּר שֶׁל שְׁמִיעַת לָשׁוֹן הָרָע וְקַבָּלָתוֹ וְעוֹד שְׁאָר אִסּוּרִים הַמְבֹאָרִים בִּפְתִיחַת סֵפֶר "חָפֵץ חַיִּים", וְאִלּוּ לֹא הָיָה מְסַפֵּר לוֹ, לֹא הָיָה בָּא מֵעַצְמוֹ לָאִסּוּר הַזֶּה
"…for it is known that this sin is done, at the least, by two. And so he sins and by this makes his fellow sin, for through him his fellow too comes to the prohibition of hearing lashon hara and of accepting it, and other prohibitions that are explained in the opening of the book Chafetz Chaim. And had he not told him, he would not have come to this prohibition by himself…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 13:2Open the source

This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, in a chapter whose heading says that in this sin a person sins and makes his fellow sin. "Accepting" lashon hara means believing it. Further on in the chapter he passes on a piece of advice he heard. A wise man told his friend never to stand near the synagogue or the study hall after the third Shabbat meal, in summer, to tell someone something:

כִּי מִשְּׁנַיִם נַעֲשִׂים שְׁלֹשָה וּמִשְּׁלֹשָה אַרְבָּעָה, חֲמִשָּׁה, שִׁשָּׁה, עַד שֶׁלְּבַסּוֹף נַעֲשֵׂית חֲבוּרָה גְּדוֹלָה, וְכָל אֶחָד מְסַפֵּר עִנְיָנָיו וּמִסְחָרָיו שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ בַּשָּׁבוּעַ שֶׁעָבַר, וְאִי אֶפְשָׁר שֶׁלֹּא יָבוֹאוּ עַל יְדֵי זֶה לְלָשׁוֹן הָרָע וְלֵיצָנוּת, וְכָל זֶה נַעֲשֶׂה בִּגְרָמוֹ שֶׁל רִאשׁוֹן שֶׁהֵבִיא לְכָל זֶה
"…for from two they become three, and from three, four, five, six, until in the end it becomes a large group. And each one tells of his affairs and his dealings of the past week, and it is impossible that they will not come, through this, to lashon hara and mockery. And all this is brought about by the first one, who led to all of it…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 13:6Open the source

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Monday, December 7 · Day 2 of 7

Don't Lean on 'Everyone Already Knows'

It was said in front of the whole room, so it is out anyway. The Chafetz Chaim says how far to keep from that argument.

2 minute read
Think first

Someone told a group something unflattering about a coworker, and you were there. It will get around anyway. Is there harm in mentioning it too?

Today's teaching

The Gemara (the Talmud) has a line about things said in front of three people. The Chafetz Chaim brings one reading of it, as "some say." On that view, a person who told something disparaging about his fellow in front of three certainly transgressed, but one of the three who later tells it to others has not transgressed the prohibition of lashon hara (negative talk about someone), because the Torah did not forbid, as lashon hara, a thing that is bound to come out. Even on that view, this is only if it happens to come up, not in order to spread it. He adds limit after limit, and ends: see how far one should keep from this leniency, which has almost no place in reality. And even when every condition is met, he writes, it still needs study whether the law follows this view.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
וְאַחֲרֵי כָּל הַדְּבָרִים וְהָאֱמֶת הָאֵלֶּה שֶׁבֵּאַרְנוּ, רְאֵה אָחִי, כַּמָה יֵשׁ לְהִתְרַחֵק מִקֻּלָּא זוֹ, שֶׁכִּמְעַט אֵין לָהּ מָקוֹם בַּמְּצִיאוּת
"And after all these things and this truth that we have explained, see, my brother, how far one should keep from this leniency, which has almost no place in reality…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:10Open the source
Take it to work

"Everyone already knows" is a leniency he advises keeping far from

At the team lunch, in front of nine people, Gil told the story of Ben falling asleep in the client meeting. He did the head going down. He did the pen. Ben was at the dentist. An hour later someone from the third floor asks why Gil was laughing so hard, and you have your reasoning ready. Nine people heard it. It is practically an announcement.

The Chafetz Chaim knows the reasoning. It is the view he brings as "some say" (2:3). Then come his limits. Only if it happens to come up, never in order to spread it. Not with a word added. Not to a listener who will believe it at once. And then his conclusion: see how far one should keep from this leniency, which has almost no place in reality (2:10).

In our words: you were about to do the pen. Maybe all nine will tell it, and yours would be one telling among many. That is the argument he quotes, and his advice is still to keep far from it. What to do in a real case is a question for a rav (rabbi). Ben is back at two, with half his face asleep. He has brought Gil a coffee.

Today's move

Think of one story about a person that "everyone knows" and that you might pass on today. Let it go around without you.

Send to a friend

Ask yourself, or your study partnerWhat do I repeat because everyone already knows it?

Go deeperMore of his words, and every source

The view he brings as "some say"

יֵשׁ אוֹמְרִים, דְּאִם אֶחָד סִפֵּר גְּנוּת עַל חֲבֵרוֹ בִּפְנִי שְׁלשָה, אַף דְּהוּא עָבַר בְּוַדַּאי עַל אִסוּר לָשׁוֹן הָרָע וְכַנַּ"ל, אַף עַל פִּי כֵן אִם אֶחָד מֵהַשְּׁלֹשָה, שֶׁשָּׁמַע דָּבָר זֶה, סִפֵּר אַחַר כָּךְ לַאֲחֵרִים, לֹא עָבַר בָּזֶה עַל אִסוּר לָשׁוֹן הָרָע, מִטַעַם דְּכֵיוָן דִּשְׁלֹשָה יוֹדְעִים מִזֶּה, מִמֵּילָא כְּבָר נִשְׁמַע הַדָּבָר וְנוֹדַע לַכֹּל, דְּחַבְרָךְ חַבְרָא אִית לֵה, וּבְדָבָר הֶעָשׂוּי לְהִתְגַּלּוֹת לֹא אָסְרָה הַתּוֹרָה מִשּׁוּם לָשׁוֹן הָרָע
"Some say that if a person told something disparaging about his fellow in front of three, although he certainly transgressed the prohibition of lashon hara, as above, even so, if one of the three who heard this thing told it afterwards to others, he did not transgress the prohibition of lashon hara by this. The reason: since three know of it, the thing is in any case already heard and known to all, for 'your friend has a friend,' and with a thing that is bound to be revealed the Torah did not forbid on account of lashon hara."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:3Open the source
וְדַוְקָא לְסַפֵּר בְּדֶרֶךְ אַקְרַאִי, אֲבָל לֹא שֶׁיִּתְכַּוֵּן לְהַעֲבִיר הַקּוֹל וּלְגַלּוֹתוֹ יוֹתֵר
"And this is only for telling it if it happens to come up, but not that he should mean to pass the report on and reveal it further."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:3Open the source

The line in the Gemara is Rabbah bar Rav Huna's: anything said in front of three people has no lashon hara in it (Bava Batra 39a; Arachin 16a). "Your friend has a friend" is the Gemara's phrase: whoever hears a thing has a friend he will tell, and that friend has a friend (Arachin 16a). In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) the Chafetz Chaim goes through how the early commentators read it. This paragraph, he writes, is taken from the Rambam (Maimonides, Hilchot De'ot 7:5), and he explains the Rambam by the reason the Rashbam, an early commentator, gives: it is a thing that is bound to be revealed. He suggests why that should matter. The Torah calls the teller of lashon hara a peddler, one who carries things from place to place, and that name does not fit one who passes on a thing that will come out in any case.

Then he sets out the other side. Other early commentators (he names Rashi, Tosafot and Rabbeinu Yonah) read the Gemara's line differently, and on their readings, he writes, there is no source in the Gemara for this leniency of the Rambam, "and so it needs study whether the law is so." Even so, he does not set it aside altogether, since the Rambam, the Semag (an early code of the commandments) and the Rashbam agree on it. That, he writes, is why he gave this law in the main text as "some say."

A note of his inside the paragraph adds a stricter view. Some say more: even if it happens to come up, he may not set out to tell this thing by itself. It is permitted only when the matter rolls in by the way, in the middle of what he is saying. His notes name the source, a later work of law called Yad HaKetanah, and give its reasoning: "your friend has a friend" works slowly, as things come up between people in conversation; one who means to reveal the thing makes it known quickly, and so does more than that.

The paragraph ends: even if he does not say who told him, and only says that such and such was heard about So-and-so, he has not escaped the prohibition of lashon hara. His notes explain: this is one who meant to pass the report on.

The limits he sets

Only the first hearer, who himself heard it told in front of three. One who heard it from him may not rely on being told that it was said in front of three, unless the thing has already become public and known to all (2:4).

It seems to him that if it was told in front of God-fearing people who are careful about lashon hara, the thing is not bound to come out, and telling it afterwards is forbidden by the Torah. The same holds if even one of the three was such a person. And perhaps, he writes, also if one of the three was a relative or a friend of the person spoken about (2:5).

It also seems to him that this is only in the city where it was told, not in another city, even if travelers pass between the two (2:6). His notes weigh it both ways. With a matter that makes a stir, he writes, one can perhaps say that it applies even from city to city. Small matters do not carry from city to city, and perhaps, in a large city, not even within the city.

Not if the teller warned them not to reveal it, even if he said it in front of many (2:7). And only if there were three listeners; the tellers are not counted (2:8, with his notes).

Not with a single word added. Not about something a person did long ago and has left behind, or about how his parents behaved, when he does not follow their ways, even when everyone knows it (2:9). And not to a listener who, by his nature, will at once take the thing as true, and may add to it: telling such a person, he writes, transgresses "Do not put a stumbling block before the blind" (2:10; Vayikra, Leviticus, 19:14).

וּבִפְרָט שֶׁאַף אִם יִצְטָרְפוּ כָּל הַפְּרָטִים, גַּם כֵּן צָרִיךְ עִיּוּן אִם הֲלָכָה כְּדֵעָה זוֹ, אַחֲרֵי שֶׁלְּדַעַת הַרְבֵּה פּוֹסְקִים אֵין שׁוּם מָקוֹר לְקֻלָּא זוֹ מֵהַשַּׁ"ס, לָכֵן הַשּׁוֹמֵר נַפְשׁוֹ יִרְחַק מִזֶּה
"…And above all, even if all the details come together, it still needs study whether the law follows this view, since in the view of many authorities there is no source for this leniency in the Talmud. Therefore one who guards his soul will keep far from it."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:10Open the source

For rechilut (talebearing: telling a person what someone said or did against him) he brings a parallel "some say": once a thing was said in front of three, there is no rechilut in telling the person, "So-and-so said this about you." Then he rules: one is not to rely on this view in practice. He cites the Maharshal, a later authority, that many of the early authorities (he names the Rambam, the Semag and Tosafot) disagree with it and forbid in every case (Rechilut 2:3).

When everyone treats it as nothing

וְיֵשׁ שֶׁסִּבַּת הֶרְגֵּל עֲוֹנוֹ בָּא לוֹ מִצַּד הֶפְקַר. דְּהַיְנוּ שֶׁהוּא רוֹאֶה שֶׁדָּבָר זֶה הוּא הֶפְקֵר בְּעֵינֵי הַרְבֵּה מִבְּנֵי אָדָם, בַּעֲוֹנוֹתֵינוּ הָרַבִּים, וְלֹא נֶחְשָׁב בְּעֵינֵיהֶם לְעָוֹן כְּלָל, עַל כֵּן נִתְרַשְׁלוּ יָדָיו מִשְׁמִירָתוֹ
"And sometimes the cause of his habit in this sin is that it has become hefker [a free-for-all]. That is, he sees that many people, because of our many sins, treat this thing as a free-for-all and do not count it as a sin at all, and so his hands have grown slack in guarding it."
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Discerning 15:6Open the source

This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, in a chapter on lashon hara that comes from despair, and from its being treated as a free-for-all. His advice there is a picture. A person and his whole town are gravely ill, and a great doctor comes to town. Would he be slow to send for him?

וְאִם הָיָה שׁוֹאֲלוֹ אֶחָד מֵאוֹהֲבָיו: לָמָּה אַתָּה זָרִיז יוֹתֵר מֵאֲחֵרִים? בְּוַדַּאי הָיָה מְשִׁיבוֹ: שׁוֹטֶה שֶׁבָּעוֹלָם, בְּדָבָר שֶׁחַיָּי תְּלוּיִין בּוֹ, אֲפִלּוּ בִּסְפֵק סְפֵקָא אֵין אֲנִי צָרִיךְ לְהִסְתַּכֵּל עַל אֲחֵרִים
"And if one of his friends were to ask him: Why are you quicker than the others? he would surely answer him: Fool of the world! In a thing my life depends on, even on a doubt of a doubt, I do not need to look at others…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Discerning 15:7Open the source

All the more so with the soul, he writes: one should not look at others in this. He is speaking there of guarding the tongue in general, not of things said in front of three. Setting the passage beside today's law is ours.

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Tuesday, December 8 · Day 3 of 7

They Leaked It. That Doesn't Free You.

"This stays in this room," said to a full room. Two people have already repeated it. The Chafetz Chaim rules on the third.

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Think first

Someone told a group something unflattering about a person, and asked that it go no further. Since then, others who were there have repeated it. Are you still bound?

Today's teaching

Some say that a thing told in front of three people may later be mentioned by one of them, if it happens to come up. The Chafetz Chaim brings that view, writes that it needs study whether the law follows it, and advises keeping far from it (2:3, 2:10). Here he rules on a case where even that view does not apply. If the teller warned his listeners not to reveal it, then even if he said it in front of many, one who reveals it afterwards, even if it happens to come up, is telling lashon hara (negative talk about someone). And even if he sees that one or two of the listeners did not keep the warning, this third one may still not reveal it to others, even if it happens to come up. In his notes he gives his reasons for the third listener, and adds that the matter is not fully clear to him.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
הַשְּׁלִישִׁי הַזֶּה אֵין לוֹ לְגַלּוֹת אֶת הַדָּבָר לַאֲחֵרִים אֲפִלּוּ בְּמִקְרֶה
"…this third one is not to reveal the thing to others, even if it happens to come up…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:7Open the source
Take it to work

When you were asked to keep it quiet, others telling it does not permit you

The offsite dinner had eleven people and one long table. After the main course Ruth, who runs the team, told the whole table why Adam's project was really taken away from him. She finished with a look down both sides: "This stays here." Everyone nodded. You nodded with unusual sincerity.

By the next afternoon it had come back to you twice. Once by the coffee machine. Once in a message that began, "You did NOT hear this from me." A secret two people have told is not much of a secret. It is a story with a head start.

The Chafetz Chaim rules on this kind of table. Whoever reveals it afterwards is telling lashon hara, even if it only happens to come up, and even if he sees that one or two of the others did not keep the warning (2:7). In our words: you are the third one. What two colleagues did with it afterwards is theirs. Maybe it will reach everyone by the end of the week. It will have to get there without you. Adam asked this morning how the offsite was. You said the food was good, which was true.

Today's move

Think of something you were asked to keep to yourself that others have since repeated. Do not repeat it today, even if it happens to come up.

Send to a friend

Ask yourself, or your study partnerWhose leak have I been treating as my permission?

Go deeperMore of his words, and every source

The warning

וְאִם הָאוֹמֵר הִזְהִיר שֶׁלֹּא לְגַלּוֹתוֹ, אֲפִלּוּ אָמַר בִּפְנֵי רַבִּים, יֵשׁ בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם לָשׁוֹן הָרָע, לְמִי שֶׁיְּגַלֶּה אַחַר כָּךְ אֲפִלּוּ בְּמִקְרֶה
"And if the one who told it warned them not to reveal it, even if he said it in front of many, there is lashon hara in it for one who reveals it afterwards, even if it happens to come up."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:7Open the source
וַאֲפִלּוּ אִם הוּא רוֹאֶה שֶׁאֶחָד מֵהַשּׁוֹמְעִים אוֹ שְׁנַיִם לֹא שָׁמְרוּ אֶת הָאַזְהָרָה הַזּוֹ וְגִלּוּהוּ לַאֲחֵרִים, אַף עַל פִּי כֵן הַשְּׁלִישִׁי הַזֶּה אֵין לוֹ לְגַלּוֹת אֶת הַדָּבָר לַאֲחֵרִים אֲפִלּוּ בְּמִקְרֶה
"And even if he sees that one of the listeners, or two, did not keep this warning and revealed it to others, even so this third one is not to reveal the thing to others, even if it happens to come up…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:7Open the source
אֵין חִלּוּק בִּלְשׁוֹן הָאַזְהָרָה, בֵּין שֶׁצִּוָּם שֶׁלֹּא יְדַבְּרוּ עוֹד מִזֶּה הָעִנְיָן כְּלָל, וּבֵין שֶׁאָמַר לָהֶם, שֶׁאַל יִוָּדַע מִכֶּם דָּבָר, בְּכָל גַּוְנִי אָסוּר לְגַלּוֹת מֵהַגְּנוּת שֶׁל פְּלוֹנִי אֲפִלּוּ לְאַחֵר, וְכָל שֶׁכֵּן לְמִי שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר עָלָיו, דְּעַל יְדֵי שֶׁיְּגַלֶּה לְאַחֵר, יִתְגַּלֶּה לְבַסוֹף לַכֹּל וַאֲפִלּוּ לוֹ, דְּחַבְרָךְ חַבְרָא אִית לֵה
"There is no difference in the wording of the warning, whether he ordered them not to speak of this matter any more at all, or said to them, 'Let nothing become known from you.' In every case it is forbidden to reveal the disparagement of So-and-so even to another person, and all the more to the one it was said about. For by his revealing it to another, it will in the end be revealed to all, and even to him, for 'your friend has a friend.'"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:8Open the source

"Your friend has a friend" is a phrase from the Gemara (the Talmud): whoever hears a thing has a friend he will tell, and that friend has a friend (Arachin 16a).

In a note on that paragraph he raises one case and leaves it open. If the teller only ordered them not to reveal it to the person it was said about, perhaps it is permitted to mention it to someone else if it happens to come up. "It needs study," he writes. The note speaks only within the "some say" view of things told in front of three. So everything he says about that view holds here too: he advises keeping far from it, and it needs study whether the law follows it at all (2:10).

His reasons, and his doubt

In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) he gives the sources of this law: the Semag, an early code of the commandments, and the Hagahot Maimoniyot and the Kesef Mishneh, two commentaries on the Rambam (Maimonides). The Kesef Mishneh explains: because of the warning, and because here one cannot say "your friend has a friend," since each of them will take care not to reveal the secret. He adds a proof from the Gemara (the Talmud, Bava Batra 39a), which compares lashon hara to a protest, a statement an owner makes in front of witnesses that someone is holding his land. As he brings it: if the owner told the witnesses, "Let no word of this go out from you," it is not a protest, because it is no longer bound to get around.

For the third listener he gives three lines of reasoning. On the view of the Yad HaKetanah (a later work of law), the whole permission rests on the teller's having agreed that the thing be known, and here he plainly has not. On the reasoning he himself prefers, that a thing told to three is bound to come out: with only two who have told it, it is not yet bound to reach everyone. And a third reason, which does not depend on the count: the man handed them the thing as a secret, and of this it is said, "One who goes about as a talebearer reveals a secret" (Mishlei, Proverbs, 11:13). Is the third one permitted, he asks, because two transgressed? He compares the Gemara's rule (Yoma 4b) that what a person tells his fellow may not be repeated until he says, "Go and say it." On this reasoning, he writes, even if four were warned and three went and told, the fourth may not, although the thing is by now known to all.

Then, in parentheses, he writes that the matter is still not fully clear to him, and neither is the law in the main text. Perhaps the one who warned them meant it only for as long as all of them kept his word. And what will it help if this one holds back, when it will now come out anyway? All of that, he ends, is on his own reasoning. On the Yad HaKetanah's it is forbidden in every case, as long as we have not seen that the teller agreed. The main text rules as above.

The one people tell their secrets to

גַּם מִי שֶׁמַּחֲזִיק בְּמִדַּת הַשְּׁתִיקָה כָּל אֶחָד יָכוֹל לְגַלּוֹת לוֹ סוֹדוֹתָיו, כֵּיוָן שֶׁאֵינוֹ רָגִיל בְּרֹב דְּבָרִים לֹא יִגַלֶּה, וְעוֹד אֵינוֹ רָגִיל בִּרְכִילוּת
"…Also, one who holds to the trait of silence: everyone can reveal his secrets to him. Since he is not used to much talk, he will not reveal them; and besides, he is not used to rechilut [talebearing]…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Discerning 2:5Open the source

This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, in the chapters on a saying of Rabbi Yitzchak in the Gemara (Chullin 89a): what is a person's craft in this world? To make himself like one who cannot speak. The Gemara adds: but not for words of Torah. The passage lists what a habit of silence saves a person from. Its wording follows an older book, Orchot Tzadikim (Gate of Silence). The pairing of it with today's law is ours.

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Wednesday, December 9 · Day 4 of 7

Not One Word More

The story was already everywhere. All you said was, "That sounds like him." The Chafetz Chaim rules on the extra word.

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Think first

A story about someone is already going around. If you add one line of your own, such as "that sounds like him," have you done anything?

Today's teaching

Some say that a thing told in front of three people may later be mentioned by one of them, if it happens to come up. The Chafetz Chaim brings that view, writes that it needs study whether the law follows it, and advises keeping far from it (2:3, 2:10). Everything he wrote about it, he says here, was about the telling itself. But to add even one word, or to make the thing convincing to the listener, for example to say that the story heard about So-and-so is rightly heard about him: this is certainly forbidden in every case. He gives two reasons. By adding, he harms the person more than the story would have harmed him when it came out in the end by itself. And it shows that he accepts the thing as true, which is forbidden on every view, in every case.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
אֲבָל, חַס וְשָׁלוֹם, לְהוֹסִיף אְפִלּוּ תֵּבָה אַחַת אוֹ לְהַטְעִים אֶת הַדָּבָר בִּפְנֵי הַשּׁוֹמֵעַ, לוֹמַר שֶׁהַמַּעֲשֶׂה שֶׁנִּשְׁמַע עַל שִׁמְעוֹן, יָפֶה נִשְׁמָע עָלָיו וְכַיּוֹצֵּא בָּזֶה, זֶה וַדַּאי אָסוּר בְּכָל גַּוְנֵי
"…But, God forbid, to add even one word, or to make the thing convincing to the listener, to say that the story that was heard about Shimon is rightly heard about him, and the like: this is certainly forbidden in every case…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:9Open the source
Take it to work

Adding even one word to a story that is going around is forbidden in every case

By ten everyone on the floor knows that Avi was passed over for team lead, and why: a client complained. You did not start it or pass it on. Someone told you the full version at the coffee machine, and you said six words. "Honestly? That sounds exactly like him." No telling. Only a review.

The Chafetz Chaim writes about words like these. To add even one word, or to make the thing convincing to the listener, is certainly forbidden in every case (2:9).

In our words: he wrote this about one who repeats the story, and you only answered the one who told you. His second reason reaches a listener too: words of agreement show that the story was taken as true. Believing such a story is forbidden by the Torah, he rules, and one who agrees with it out loud doubles the sin (6:1). One who is stuck among people telling such a story, he writes, is to show no sign of agreeing with them (6:5). You have not asked Avi, and neither has anyone at the machine. It was Avi who refilled the machine this morning. Nobody has ever told a story about that.

Today's move

The next time a story about a person reaches you today, add nothing that agrees with it. Not a word, and not a nod.

Send to a friend

Ask yourself, or your study partnerWhat is my usual one line when a story about someone comes around?

Go deeperMore of his words, and every source

Why one word is worse

דְּהוּא מְּקַלְקֵל אוֹתוֹ בִּדְבָרָיו, יוֹתֵר מִמַּה שֶּׁהָיָה נִשְׁמָע עָלָיו לְבַסוֹף מֵעַצְּמוֹ עַל פִּי הַסְּבָרָא דְּאַפֵּי תְּלָתָא. וְעוֹד, דְּבָזֶה מוּכָח שֶׁמְּקַבֵּל דָּבָר זֶה לֶאֱמֶת, וְזֶה אָסוּר לְכֻלֵּי עָלְמָא בְּכָל גַּוְנֵי
"…for he harms him with his words more than what would in the end have been heard about him by itself, on the reasoning of 'in front of three.' And further, by this it is shown that he accepts this thing as true, and that is forbidden on every view, in every case…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:9Open the source

He points ahead to chapter 7 of these laws, which begins:

אִסוּר קַבָּלַת לָשׁוֹן הָרָע הוּא אֲפִלּוּ אִם הַמְסַפֵּר מְסַפֵּר אֶת הַדְּבָרִים בְּפִרְסוּם לִפְנִי כַּמָּה אֲנָשִׁים, אַף עַל פִּי כֵן אֵין לְהַחְלִיט מֵחֲמַת זֶה, שֶׁהַדָּבָר אֱמֶת
"The prohibition of accepting lashon hara applies even if the teller tells the things publicly, in front of a number of people. Even so, one is not to decide because of this that the thing is true…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 7:1Open the source

"Accepting" lashon hara (negative talk about someone) means deciding in one's heart that it is true. The paragraph goes on: the listeners should be wary of it and look into the matter, and if it becomes clear to them that it is true, they should reprove the person it was said about, which means correct him. What "wary" allows is narrow: only guarding oneself, or others, with no harm or shame to the person, and not even hating him in one's heart (6:10-11).

The listener's own law

He wrote today's paragraph about one who repeats a story. The law for one who hears it is in chapter 6, and it opens:

אָסוּר לְקַבֵּל לָשׁוֹן הָרָע מִן הַתּוֹרָה, בֵּין שֶׁהוּא מֵהַדְּבָרִים, שֶׁבֵּין אָדָם לַמָּקוֹם, אוֹ מֵהדְּבָרִים, שֶׁבֵּין אָדָם לַחֲבֵרוֹ, דְּהַיְנוּ שֶׁלֹּא נַאֲמִין בְּלִבֵּנוּ שֶׁהַסִפּוּר הוּא אֱמֶת, כִּי עַל יְדֵי זֶה יְבֻזֶּה בְּעֵינֵינוּ, מִי שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר עָלָיו. וַאֲפִלּוּ אִם לֹא יַסְכִּים לוֹ בְּפֵרוּשׁ לְסִפּוּרוֹ, דְּאִי לָאו הָכִי, הְרֵי הוּא שׁוֹנֶה אֶת הֶעָוֹן בְּכִפְלַיִם, שֶׁהוּא מְסַפֵּר וּמְקַבֵּל
"It is forbidden by the Torah to accept lashon hara, whether it is about matters between a person and God, or about matters between one person and another. That is, we are not to believe in our hearts that the story is true, for through this the one it was said about will be despised in our eyes. And this is so even if he does not agree outright with the story. For if he does, he is doubling the sin, since he is telling and accepting."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 6:1Open the source

For one who is sitting among people who have begun to tell such things, and judges that rebuking them will not help, he writes that leaving, or stopping his ears, is a great mitzvah (commandment). If he cannot leave, and judges that stopping his ears is also very hard for him, because they will mock him, he gives three rules (6:5): to decide firmly not to believe what they say; not to be pleased at hearing it; and to show the tellers no movement from which it would seem that he agrees with them, but to sit like a silent stone. If he can show them a stern face, so that they understand he does not agree, that, he writes, is certainly better.

Old news that everyone knows

וְעַל כֵּן צָּרִיךְ לִזָּהֵר מְאֹד, אֲפִלּוּ אִם מְפֻרְסָם עַל אָדָם עִנְיָן אֶחָד לְרַע שֶׁעָשָׂה בְּנַעֲרוּתוֹ, אַךְ מֵאָז וְעַד עַתָּה הוּא מִתְנַהֵג כַּשּׁוּרָה, אוֹ שֶׁמְּפֻרְסָם עַל אֲבוֹתָיו, שֶׁלֹּא הָיוּ נוֹהֲגִים כַּשּׁוּרָה כְּלָל, וְהוּא אֵינוֹ אוֹחֵז בְּדַרְכֵיהֶם, וְכָל כְּהַאי גַּוְנָא בְּדָבָר שֶׁעַל פִּי אֱמֶת אֵין עַוְלָה עָלָיו, אָסוּר לְגַנּוֹתוֹ וּלְבַזּוֹתוֹ אֵצֶּל חֲבֵרָיו בָּזֶה
"And therefore one must take great care: even if one bad thing is widely known about a person, which he did in his youth, but from then until now he has behaved properly, or it is widely known about his forebears that they did not behave properly at all, and he does not hold to their ways, and anything like this, where in truth there is no wrong on him, it is forbidden to disparage him and shame him among his fellows with it…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:9Open the source
וְלֹא שַׁיָּךְ עַל זֶה כְּלָל הֶתֵּרָא דְּאַפֵּי תְּלָתָא, אַף שֶׁדָּבָר זֶה מְפֻרְסָם בְּפִי כֹּל, אַחֲרֵי שֶׁעַל פִּי אֱמֶּת אֵין עָלָיו שׁוּם גְּנַאי בָּזֶה
"…and the permission of 'in front of three' does not apply to this at all, even though this thing is widely known in everyone's mouth, since in truth there is no disgrace on him in it…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 2:9Open the source

His proof is from the prophet Yechezkel (Ezekiel, chapter 18): "A son shall not bear the sin of the father," and, of one who turns back from his sins, "all his transgressions that he did shall not be remembered against him." One who tells such things about a person in front of people in order to shame him, he writes, even without adding anything to the truth, belongs to the group of tellers of lashon hara, who do not come before the Divine Presence; he cites Rabbeinu Yonah, an early sage, in his book Sha'arei Teshuvah. In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) he calls all this plain, and still shows a source. Sefer Chasidim, an early book of piety (section 44), counts as lashon hara telling a fellow's disgrace "even a true thing, and even a common saying." A commentator there explains: the disgrace is on everyone's lips and has become a byword among them, and even so it is forbidden to tell it.

A person at the edge

אָמַר לוֹ דָּוִד: וְזוֹ גְּבוּרָה הִיא, שֶׁרוֹאֶה אָדָם אֶת חֲבֵרוֹ עַל פִּי הַבּוֹר וְדוֹחֲפוֹ לַבּוֹר וְרוֹאֶה אוֹתוֹ עַל רֹאשׁ הַגָּג וְדוֹחֲפוֹ? זוֹ גְּבוּרָה הִיא? אֶלָּא אֵימָתַי הוּא גִּבּוֹר? בְּשָׁעָה שֶׁיָּבוֹא חֲבֵרוֹ לִפֹּל, וְאוֹחֲזוֹ בְּיָדוֹ שֶׁלֹּא יִפֹּל
"…David said to him: And is this might, that a person sees his fellow at the edge of the pit and pushes him into the pit, or sees him at the top of the roof and pushes him? Is this might? Rather, when is he mighty? At the moment his fellow is about to fall, and he takes him by the hand so that he will not fall…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Discerning 17:10Open the source

In Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, the Chafetz Chaim is describing two kinds of people. The good help a fellow with all their strength and cover his shortcomings as they would their own. The bad do the opposite: they are glad at his fall, and reveal his mistakes and make them out, in front of everyone, to be deliberate. He quotes Midrash Shocher Tov, the Midrash on Tehillim (Psalms), on the verse "Why do you boast of evil, mighty man?" (52:3). It is about Doeg, who spoke lashon hara to King Shaul (Saul) about David and Achimelech the priest. Setting it beside today's law is ours: a person about whom a story is going around is a person at the edge.

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Thursday, December 10 · Day 5 of 7

'No Names' Is Not a Loophole

"Not naming names." The Chafetz Chaim rules on the story that leaves the name out.

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Think first

You tell what someone did wrong, without saying who. Everyone listening can work out who it is. Does leaving out the name help?

Today's teaching

The prohibition of telling lashon hara (negative talk about someone), the Chafetz Chaim rules, applies even if the teller does not say whom he is speaking about. If from the story the listener understands which person he meant, it is lashon hara. And more than this: even if there was nothing negative in his words at all, but through his words harm or disgrace came to his fellow, and the teller meant this, by trickery, this too is lashon hara. The Sages, he writes, call it lashon hara in concealment, meaning hidden inside innocent words.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
אִסוּר סִפּוּר לָשׁוֹן הָרָע הוּא אֲפִלּוּ אִם אֵינוֹ מְבָאֵר בְּעֵת הַסִפּוּר אֶת הָאִישׁ שֶׁהוּא מְּדַבֵּר עָלָיו, רַק הוּא מְסַפֵּר סְתָם, וּמִתּוֹךְ עִנְיַן הַסִפּוּר נִשְׁמָע לְהַשּׁוֹמֵעַ עַל אֵיזֶה אִישׁ כִּוֵּן הַמְסַפֵּר הזֶּה, בִּכְלַל לָשׁוֹן הָרָע הוּא
"The prohibition of telling lashon hara applies even if, when he tells it, he does not make clear who the person is that he is speaking about, and only tells it without a name, and from the content of the story the listener gathers which person this teller meant: it is in the category of lashon hara."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 3:4Open the source
Take it to work

Leaving out the name does not help if they can tell who it is

The post went up at 4:52, in the channel with the whole department in it. "Not naming names, but SOME people present slides they did not make." There had been one presentation that day, and Maya gave it.

The Chafetz Chaim rules on the story without a name. If the listener understands whom the teller meant, it is lashon hara. Even where nothing negative was said, if harm or disgrace came to the person through the words, and the teller meant it, that too is lashon hara (3:4). His notes bring a story from the Talmud Yerushalmi (the Jerusalem Talmud). As he tells it, a group was called up for forced labor, and a man named Bar Chovetz slipped away. They asked one another what they would eat that day. One, who had the missing man in mind, answered with the name of a food: chovtza, a kind of lentil. That reminded the overseers, and they said: let Bar Chovetz come too. Rabbi Yochanan said: this man spoke lashon hara in concealment. As he points out, nobody there said a word against the man.

In our words: your post said several, and everyone knew who had presented that day. Maybe Maya did borrow the slides. What may be said then, and to whom, is a question for a rav (rabbi). By five, three people had answered with the emoji of two wide eyes. Maya added a thumbs-up. She thought it was about someone else.

Today's move

Today, catch yourself before a story that starts "not naming names." Ask who will know, or will work out, who it is.

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Even with nothing said against him

וְיוֹתֵר מִזֶּה, שֶׁאֲפִלּוּ אִם בְּדִבְרֵי סִפּוּרוֹ לֹא הָיָה שׁוּם עִנְיַן גְּנַאי כְּלָל, רַק שֶׁעַל יְדֵי דְּבָרָיו נִסְבַּב רָעָה אוֹ גְּנוּת לַחֲבֵרוֹ, וְהַמְסַפֵּר הַזֶּה נִתְכַּוֵּן לָזֶה בְּרַמָּאוּתוֹ, גַּם זֶה בִּכְלַל לָשׁוֹן הָרָע הוּא, וְדָבָר זֶה נִקְרָא בְּפִי חֲזַ"ל בְּשֵׁם לָשׁוֹן הָרָע בְּצִּנְעָא
"And more than this: even if in the words of his story there was nothing negative at all, only that through his words harm or disgrace was brought about for his fellow, and this teller meant it, in his trickery, this too is in the category of lashon hara. And this is what the Sages call lashon hara in concealment."
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 3:4Open the source

In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) the source is a story in the Talmud Yerushalmi (the Jerusalem Talmud, Peah 1:1). As he tells it: a group had a day on which they were to go to forced labor, and one of them, called Bar Chovetz, slipped away and did not go up with them. They said to one another, "What shall we eat today?" One answered, "Chovtza," a kind of lentil that was called by that name then. Through this the overseers were reminded, and said: let Bar Chovetz come to the labor too. Rabbi Yochanan said: this one spoke lashon hara in concealment.

The Chafetz Chaim reasons from it. The man who answered did not say the name outright. He did not even say what was in his mind, that Bar Chovetz had slipped away. He only named the food, and so the name was remembered. All the more so, he writes, in our case, where a person tells the deed itself. He adds that lashon hara, as the Rambam (Maimonides) defines it, includes anything that causes a person harm in body or in money, or distress.

The Yerushalmi itself tells the story in a few words. As printed, it is the linen dealers who have a gathering that the man did not come up to, and the forced labor and the overseers are not spelled out. Those details come from the Penei Moshe, the commentary printed beside the Yerushalmi. The Chafetz Chaim does not name it, but he tells the story almost word for word as the Penei Moshe does.

He goes on to other ways of telling by trickery (3:5): telling the thing as if innocently, as though he did not know that it is lashon hara, or that these are So-and-so's deeds. All of this, he rules, is lashon hara.

He only hints

וּכְהַאי גַּוְנָא בְּעֵת שֶׁהוּא מְסַפֵּר הַלָּשׁוֹן הָרָע וְהָרְכִילוּת, יַעֲשֶׂה בְּדֶרֶךְ רַמָּאוּת, שֶׁיֵּרָאֶה כְּאִלּוּ הוּא מְסַפֵּר לְפִי תֻּמּוֹ, וְלֹא יְסַפֵּר כָּל הַסִּפּוּר, רַק מְרַמֵּז, וְעַל יְדֵי זֶה יָבִין חֲבֵרוֹ הַשְׁאָר
"…And in the same way, when he tells the lashon hara and the rechilut [talebearing], he does it by way of trickery, so that it will look as if he is telling it innocently, and he does not tell the whole story, he only hints, and through this his fellow understands the rest…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 4:16Open the source

This is from Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, in a chapter on the power of lashon hara. He is describing the baal lashon hara, a person for whom it has become a habit. A midrash (a teaching of the Sages) that he brings there compares lashon hara to a mad dog, the one danger a person can only hide from. In a note, the Chafetz Chaim takes the Gemara's signs of such a dog (the Talmud, Yoma 83b) and finds each of them in that person. One of the signs is that it walks at the sides of the road, quietly, so that no one will be on guard. The words above are from that note. A few lines later he applies to those who write against people in secret the verse, "Cursed is one who strikes his fellow in secret" (Devarim, Deuteronomy, 27:24). In his laws he brings the same verse for lashon hara told in secret (3:1). The pairing of this passage with today's law is ours.

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Friday, December 11 · Day 6 of 7

A Rumor Is Not a Fact

Three people told you the same thing about her before lunch. The Chafetz Chaim rules on what a rumor is worth.

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Think first

A report about someone is going around. You have heard it from several people. Is that enough to believe it?

Today's teaching

To accept lashon hara (negative talk about someone) means to decide in your heart that it is true. It is forbidden, the Chafetz Chaim rules, even when a report has gone out that someone did or said something improper by the Torah. One may only be wary, until the thing is made clear. Being wary means only guarding yourself or others against possible harm. It is not even to count as a doubt about the person. It does not allow doing anything to him, causing him loss or shame, or hating him in your heart (6:10-11). He adds: be very careful not to spread the report.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
אֲפִלּוּ הָכֵי אָסוּר לְקַבְּלוֹ לְהַאֲמִינוֹ בְּהַחְלָטָה, רַק לָחוּשׁ, עַד שֶׁיִּתְבָּרֵר הַדָּבָר
"…even so it is forbidden to accept it [the report], to decide that it is true; only to be wary, until the thing is made clear…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 7:4Open the source
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Hearing it from several people does not make it true

By eleven you have heard it three times, once in a four-minute voice note: Noa in Purchasing takes gifts from suppliers. One person might be wrong. Three people is data.

The Chafetz Chaim counts differently. Two tellers or more, he rules, are like one: outside a court they are not witnesses (7:3). And a report that has gone out may not be taken as true. Only be wary, until the thing is made clear (7:4). And wary is narrow. It means guarding against harm, and nothing more (6:10). Nothing may be done to her because of it: no harm, no shame, large or small, and not even hating her in your heart (6:11). He writes that it is not even to count as a doubt about her, and that she is still owed everything a person is owed (6:10).

In our words: you notice that all three name the same person as their source. A report that began with one person, his notes say, may certainly not be relied on. Maybe there is something in it. Where harm could come to you or to others if it were ignored, the Sages say one must guard against it, and he keeps that guarding within those limits (6:10). Spreading it as news is forbidden. Whether anyone has to be told in order to prevent harm is a different question. He gives it its own chapter, with conditions (Rechilut, his laws of talebearing, chapter 9), and a real case is a question for a rav (rabbi). Noa sent you the supplier list this morning, with the columns already sorted.

Today's move

Today, when you hear "everyone is saying" about a person, treat it as not yet known. Do not pass it on.

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A report, and what being wary allows

וְהוּא הַדִּין, אִם יָצָא קוֹל עַל אֶחָֹד, שֶׁעָשָׂה מַעֲשֶׂה אוֹ שֶׁדִּבֵּר דָּבָר, שֶׁלֹּא כָּרָאוּי עַל פִּי הַתּוֹרָה, בֵּין שֶׁהוּא אִסוּר חָמוּר וּבֵין שֶׁהוּא אִסוּר קַל
"And the same law applies if a report has gone out about someone that he did a deed, or said a thing, that is not proper according to the Torah, whether it is a severe prohibition or a light one…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 7:4Open the source

"The same law" is the law of the paragraph before it, about hearing a thing from two people or more. "Being wary" has limits, and he gives them in the chapter before (6:10-11). It is only a bare concern, in order to guard against harm to oneself or to others. It is not to count even as a doubt, he writes, because a person keeps his standing as upright, and so he is still owed every kindness the Torah commands toward any other Jew. Nothing may be done to him because of it: no act against him, no harm and no shame, large or small. Even to hate him in one's heart over it, he writes, is forbidden by the Torah.

From two, or from more

כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאָסוּר לְקַּבֵּל לָשׁוֹן הָרָע, אִם שָׁמַע מֵאֶחָד, כֵּן הַדִּין, אֲפִלּוּ אִם שָׁמַע מִשְּׁנַיִם אוֹ יוֹתֵר
"Just as it is forbidden to accept lashon hara if he heard it from one person, so is the law even if he heard it from two or more…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 7:3Open the source

He gives two cases. In the first, the telling itself was forbidden to them. Then even if what they say is true, he writes, they have broken the prohibition of talebearing, which applies to the truth as well. That makes them wicked, and how can they be believed about a Jew who is, for now, presumed fully upright? One who is suspect in lashon hara, he adds, is suspect of lying, changing and adding: what of it that they are two, or even many more? And even where the telling was not forbidden to them, it is still forbidden to decide, on their word, that the thing is true. What two people say counts as testimony only in a court. All of this is about deciding that the thing is true, he ends; being wary is permitted even if one heard it from only one person. What being wary allows is narrow: only guarding against harm to oneself or others. It is not even a doubt about the person, nothing may be done to him, and he may not be hated for it (6:10-11).

The chapter opens with a thing said in public (7:1): even if the teller tells it in front of a number of people, one may not decide because of this that it is true. The listeners should be wary of it and look into the matter, and if it becomes clear to them that it is true, they should reprove him for it, which means correct him.

Where he learns it

In his own notes (the Be'er Mayim Chaim) the source for a report is a story in the Gemara (the Talmud, Niddah 61a). A report went out about certain men of the Galilee that they had killed someone. They came to Rabbi Tarfon and asked him to hide them. He said: what shall I do? If I do not hide you, they will see you. And if I hide you, the Sages said of lashon hara that although one may not accept it, one should be wary of it. Go and hide yourselves. So, the Chafetz Chaim writes, the law of not accepting applies to a report too.

Rashi, the classic commentator, explains: perhaps you did kill, and I may not save you. The Rosh, an early authority, finds that hard, and prefers the explanation of the She'iltot, an early work: Rabbi Tarfon was guarding himself. If the report were true, hiding them would make him liable with his life to the king, who had warned against taking in killers. The Chafetz Chaim follows this, and writes that without that risk Rabbi Tarfon could not have given the report any weight at all (his notes on 6:10).

All of this, he writes in the next paragraph, is about an ordinary Jew. He has a separate rule for a person already established as wicked, about whom it has become known, several times, that he broke, with contempt, prohibitions known to all Israel (7:5). In his note on today's paragraph he takes care to say that a single report about a person, even one heard from many people, does not make him that. And in his note on 7:5: if it is known that only one person started a report, and it spread through the town from him, it is certainly forbidden to rely on it. A real case is a question for a rav (rabbi).

Passing it on

וְעַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה שֶׁיִּזָּהֵר מְאֹד, אִם רוֹצֶה לְסַפֵּר אֶת הַדָּבָר לַאֲחֵרִים, שֶׁלֹּא יְכַוֵּן לְהַעֲבִיר הַקּוֹל וּלְגַלּוֹתוֹ יוֹתֵר
"…And how much more must he take great care, if he wants to tell the thing to others, that he not mean to pass the report on and reveal it further…"
Chafetz Chaim, Lashon Hara 7:4Open the source

He points back to chapter 2 (2:3): the view, brought there as "some say," that when a thing was told in front of three people, one of those three may afterwards mention it if it happens to come up. His notes here say that this permission does not apply to one who means to reveal the thing further. And he closes that discussion with his advice to keep far from that leniency altogether, which has, he writes, almost no place in reality. He adds that it needs study whether the law follows that view at all (2:10).

Stop asking for news

In Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, he gives advice for the listener. One who wants the trait of guarding his tongue should do the opposite of what "people of the tongue" do: they go wherever people gather, in case they hear something to mock or to carry on to others, and they are always asking after news of what happened in town between one person and another. Do it by stages, he writes: first, do not stand about in a group and do not ask after news; then, little by little, train yourself not to want to hear it.

וְזֶה כְּבָר נִבְחַן בְּכוּר הַנִּסָּיוֹן, שֶׁנְּצִירַת הַלָּשׁוֹן מֵרַע וְהָאָזְנַיִם מִשְּׁמִיעַת דִּבּוּרִים אֲסוּרִים, לֹא יִקְשֶׁה עַל הָאָדָם רַק שָׁבוּעוֹת אֲחָדִים, כִּי אַחַר כָּךְ בִּרְאוֹת הָעָם שֶׁזֶּה הָאִישׁ יְמָאֵן לְדַבֵּר וְלִשְׁמֹעַ לָשׁוֹן הָרָע וְלֵיצָנוּת וּשְׁאָר דִּבּוּרִים אֲסוּרִים, יֶחְדַּל כָּל מְסַפֵּר מִלְּסַפֵּר עוֹד לְאִישׁ כָּזֶה אֵיזֶה עִנְיָן שֶׁנּוֹגֵעַ לָאִסּוּר הַזֶּה וְיֵלֵךְ עִם הַסְּחוֹרָה הַזּוֹ שֶׁל לָשׁוֹן הָרָע וּרְכִילוּת לְמִי שֶׁיִּרְצֶה לְקַּחְתָּהּ
"…And this has already been tested in the furnace of experience: guarding the tongue from evil, and the ears from hearing forbidden talk, is hard for a person for only a few weeks. For afterwards, when people see that this man refuses to speak or to hear lashon hara and mockery and other forbidden talk, every teller will stop telling such a man anything that touches this prohibition, and will go with this merchandise of lashon hara and rechilut [talebearing] to whoever wants to take it…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Discerning 3:8Open the source

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Shabbat, December 12 · Day 7 of 7

Everyone Knew. No One Gave Them Away.

A hundred prophets were hidden in two caves, and everyone knew. The Chafetz Chaim tells what that generation did.

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Think first

In the days of King Achav (Ahab), Queen Izevel (Jezebel) was killing the prophets of Hashem (God). Ovadyah (Obadiah) hid a hundred of them in two caves. The Sages say all the people knew, and no one told the king. What does that tell you about those people?

Today's teaching

The Chafetz Chaim, in Shmirat HaLashon, his second book on speech, brings the Sages' teaching about two generations. One served idols and won its wars, because there was no lashon hara (negative talk about someone) in it; no one informed. Informing here means giving a person up to someone who is out to hurt him. The other, an earlier one, did not serve idols, and its children were learned in Torah. But it had informers, and it fell in its wars.

Read it in his wordsThe Chafetz Chaim in Hebrew, with our English
שֶׁבִּימֵי אַחְאָב, אַף שֶׁהָיוּ עוֹבְדִין עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה, הָיוּ נוֹצְחִין הַמִּלְחָמוֹת, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁלֹּא הָיָה בָּהֶן לָשׁוֹן הָרָע, וְהָרְאָיָה שֶׁלֹּא הִלְשִׁינוּ אֶת עוֹבַדְיָה, שֶׁהֶחְבִּיא מֵאָה נְבִיאִים בִּשְׁתֵּי מְעָרוֹת, וְלֹא גִּלָּה אָדָם שֶׁיֵּשׁ נָבִיא בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל מִבִּלְתִּי אֵלִיָּהוּ, כְּמוֹ שֶׁאָמַר (מלכים א' י"ח כ"ב): "אֲנִי נוֹתַרְתִּי נָבִיא לַה' לְבַדִּי", אַף שֶׁכָּל הָעוֹלָם יָדְעוּ מִזֶּה, שֶׁהֵן הָיוּ נוֹתְנִין לְעוֹבַדְיָה לְכַלְכְּלָם לֶחֶם וּמַיִם
"…in the days of Achav, though they served idols, they won the wars, because there was no lashon hara among them. The proof: they did not inform on Ovadyah, who hid a hundred prophets in two caves, and no one revealed that there was a prophet in Israel besides Eliyahu [Elijah], as he said (Melachim, Kings, I 18:22): 'I alone am left a prophet of Hashem,' though the whole world knew, for they were the ones giving Ovadyah bread and water to sustain them…"
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 4:4Open the source
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A whole generation knew where the prophets were, and no one gave them away

Queen Izevel was killing the prophets of Hashem, and Ovadyah hid a hundred of them in two caves. The whole world knew, the Chafetz Chaim writes, and no one informed on him. No one gave him up to the queen. That generation served idols and won its wars. The Sages give the reason: there was no lashon hara (negative talk about someone) among them.

In our words, not his: in this story, keeping quiet protected people in danger. Telling would have handed innocent men to the one who was killing them. A whole generation knew that, and no one gave them away. When someone is being hurt, or is in danger, or is a danger to others, and keeping quiet would leave it that way, it is the other way around. Then keeping quiet protects the one doing the harm. So tell, and quickly, the people who can protect the one in danger: a parent, a teacher, a rav (rabbi), and the police or other authorities when someone is in danger. That is true when the one being hurt is you.

This Shabbat

At the table, tell the story of the caves. Ask what would have happened to the prophets if one person had told the king. Take answers. Then read what the Sages say about that generation.

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The verses

The story is in Melachim (Kings) I, chapter 18. Ovadyah was in charge of King Achav's house, and he feared Hashem greatly. When Izevel was cutting off the prophets of Hashem, he took a hundred prophets, hid them fifty to a cave, and sustained them with bread and water (18:3-4). Later he tells the prophet Eliyahu (Elijah) so himself (18:13). On Mount Carmel, in front of all the people, Eliyahu says: "I alone am left a prophet of Hashem" (18:22). Wars that Achav won against Aram are in chapter 20. Shaul (Saul) and his sons fell in battle on Mount Gilboa (Shmuel, Samuel, I 31).

Where the Sages say it

The Chafetz Chaim cites Midrash Shocher Tov, the Midrash on Tehillim (Psalms), and the Talmud Yerushalmi (the Jerusalem Talmud), Peah 1:1. A midrash is a collection of the Sages' teachings on the verses. In the Yerushalmi it is said by Rabbi Abba bar Kahana: the generation of David were all righteous, and because there were informers among them they went out to war and fell; the generation of Achav served idols, and because there was no informing among them they went down to war and won. It ends: "And all the people knew, and did not make it known to the king." The Midrash on Tehillim (7:8) speaks of children in the days of Shaul and Shmuel (Samuel) who explained the Torah in forty-nine ways, and says of the generation of Achav that they went out and won, and not one of them was killed.

One detail of his telling comes from another book he cites there, the Semak (Sefer Mitzvot Katan, a medieval book of the commandments, 124): that the people gave Ovadyah the food. That is not in the Yerushalmi or the Midrash. It is the Semak's reasoning: many in Israel must have known, for otherwise where would he have found enough food for them? He must have asked it of many people. The sources also differ about the other generation. The Yerushalmi speaks of "the generation of David." The Midrash on Tehillim has "the days of Shaul and Shmuel," and the Semak "the generation of Shaul." Devarim Rabbah (5:10), which he cites in the next paragraph, also has "the generation of Shaul" and names Doeg and the people of Zif. The Chafetz Chaim writes "the end of the days of Shaul."

The Yerushalmi and the Midrash both add what David then asked of Hashem: to take His presence away from among them. The Chafetz Chaim brings that in the next paragraph (4:5), from Midrash Rabbah, in the name of Rabbi Mona: anyone who says lashon hara drives the Divine Presence from below to above.

Doeg and the people of Zif

וּבְסוֹף יְמֵי שָׁאוּל שֶׁהָיָה בֵּינֵיהֶם דֵּלָטוֹרְיָא, כְּמוֹ דּוֹאֵג וְהַזִּיפִים, אַף שֶׁלֹּא הָיָה בָּהֶם עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה כְּמוֹ בִּימֵי אַחְאָב, וְהָיָה נִמְצָא בָּהֶם תִּינוֹקוֹת שֶׁהָיוּ יוֹדְעִין מ"ט פָּנִים בַּתּוֹרָה, הָיוּ יוֹרְדִין לְמִלְחָמָה וְנוֹפְלִין
"And at the end of the days of Shaul, when there was informing among them, like Doeg and the people of Zif, although there was no idolatry among them as in the days of Achav, and there were found among them children who knew forty-nine faces [ways of explaining] in the Torah, they would go down to war and fall."
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 4:4Open the source

King Shaul was pursuing David, who had done him no wrong. Doeg the Edomite, one of Shaul's officers, told Shaul in front of his servants that he had seen David come to Nov, to Achimelech the priest, who gave him food and a sword (Shmuel I 22:9-10). Shaul had the priests of Nov killed (22:18-19). The people of Zif came to Shaul, more than once, to tell him where David was hiding (23:19; 26:1). Two paragraphs earlier the Chafetz Chaim brings, from the same Midrash:

שֶׁהַהוֹרֵג אֶת הַנֶּפֶשׁ אֵינוֹ הוֹרֵג אֶלָּא נֶפֶשׁ אַחַת, וְהָאוֹמֵר לָשׁוֹן הָרָע הוֹרֵג שְׁלֹשׁה, הַמְסַפְּרוֹ וְהַמְקַבְּלוֹ וְהַנֶּאֱמָר עָלָיו
"…one who kills a person kills only one soul, and one who says lashon hara kills three: the one who tells it, the one who accepts it, and the one it is said about."
Shmirat HaLashon, Gate of Remembering 4:2Open the source

The Midrash learns it, he writes, from Doeg: Shaul, who accepted it; Achimelech, about whom it was said; and Doeg, who said it. The Gemara (the Talmud, Arachin 15b) has the same count of three.

Telling in order to protect

Bringing this story to a Shabbat table is ours, and so is the paragraph in the card about a person who is being hurt or is in danger. The Chafetz Chaim's own laws include a duty to tell in order to save a person, with conditions that he sets out there. When a person sees that his fellow is about to go into something with someone, and judges that harm will surely come to him from it, he rules: "he must tell him, in order to save him from that harm," and he gives five conditions for it (Rechilut, his laws of talebearing, 9:1-2). In his note there he writes that it seems to him a duty by law, and brings the verse, "Do not stand by your fellow's blood" (Vayikra, Leviticus, 19:16). One who heard a person say that he will hit So-and-so, and judges that he will surely do it, must make it known to that person, he rules, with the same conditions (9:3). And of the men who warned Gedalyah (Gedaliah) that someone meant to kill him (Yirmiyahu, Jeremiah, 40:13-16), he writes in his notes that they did a great mitzvah (commandment), the one of that same verse (his notes on Lashon Hara 7:3).

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